• Big Stein & Torre To Go Into The Hall Together?

    Posted by on November 4th, 2013 · Comments (2)

    Via the HOF

    Six former major league players, four managers and two executives comprise the 12-name Expansion Era ballot, featuring candidates whose greatest contributions to the game were realized from 1973 through the present. A 16-member Expansion Era electorate will review and cast votes at the 2013 Baseball Winter Meetings for consideration for the Hall of Fame Class of 2014, the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum announced today.

    Dave Concepcion, Bobby Cox, Steve Garvey, Tommy John, Tony La Russa, Billy Martin, Marvin Miller, Dave Parker, Dan Quisenberry, Ted Simmons, George Steinbrenner, Joe Torre are the candidates that will be considered by the electorate. Any candidate who earns votes on 75% of ballots cast will earn election to the National Baseball Hall of Fame and will be inducted on Sunday, July 27, 2014 in Cooperstown, N.Y. Results of the Expansion Era vote will be announced on Monday, December 9 at 10 a.m. ET from the Winter Meetings in Orlando, Fla.

    The 16-member Hall of Fame Board-appointed electorate charged with the review of the Expansion Era ballot features: Hall of Fame members Rod Carew, Carlton Fisk, Whitey Herzog, Tommy Lasorda, Joe Morgan, Paul Molitor, Phil Niekro and Frank Robinson; major league executives Paul Beeston (Blue Jays), Andy MacPhail, Dave Montgomery (Phillies) and Jerry Reinsdorf (White Sox); and historians Steve Hirdt (Elias Sports Bureau), Bruce Jenkins (San Francisco Chronicle), Jack O’Connell (BBWAA) and Jim Reeves (retired, Fort Worth Star-Telegram).

    The Expansion Era ballot was devised this fall by the Baseball Writers’ Association of America (BBWAA)-appointed Historical Overview Committee from all eligible candidates among managers, umpires, executives and long-retired players, whose most significant career impact was realized from 1973 through the present. Eligible candidates include players who appeared in at least 10 consecutive major league seasons, who are not on Major League Baseball’s ineligible list and have been retired for 21 or more seasons (those whose last playing appearance was no later than 1992); managers and umpires with 10 or more years in baseball and retired for at least five years, with candidates who are 65 years or older eligible six months from the date of the election following retirement; and Executives with 10 consecutive years in baseball and retired for at least five years, with active executives 65 years or older are eligible for consideration.

    I think it will be tough for Torre with Cox and LaRussa here. Unless, he gets double credit for playing and managerial career.

    Comments on Big Stein & Torre To Go Into The Hall Together?

    1. K-V-C
      November 5th, 2013 | 10:40 am

      How is Torre even eligible? He certainly wasn’t a HOF player.

      As a manager his record is a losing one, if you take out the Yankee years, he is 1153 and 1230. Even with the Yankee years he is a .538 winning percentage. Is this the 20th best manager in baseball history? (19 in the HOF)

      29 years as a manager 6 pennants and 4 world series, 2 manager of year awards again all with the Yankees, nothing with the other 4 teams.

    2. November 5th, 2013 | 8:35 pm

      I’m not the biggest Joe Torre fan in the world, but you must be kidding. Take a look at the list of HOF managers, where does Torre rank in terms of pennants and world championships. In addition to the Yankees, he won division titles with the Braves (1), and the Dodgers (2). You want to take his Yankee record out of the equation, why not leave his Yankee record in and take out his Met record. His record without the Met years is 2040-1577, a.564 winning percentage. Keep in mind the Mets were a wreck when he took over, the front office trapped in the baseball world of the 1950’s.

      Do you realize HOF manager Bucky Harris who also manged 29 years actually had a losing lifetime record, 2,158-2,219.

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