• M’s Have The Hots For Cano?

    Posted by on December 3rd, 2013 · Comments (7)

    Via Wally M -

    The Seattle Mariners have emerged as major players in the sweepstakes for free agent Robinson Cano, according to several sources who spoke to ESPNNewYork.com on Tuesday on the condition of anonymity.

    With the New York Yankees not wanting to offer Cano more than a seven-year contract or as much as $200 million, an industry source with knowledge of the negotiations put the Yankees’ chances of retaining the five-time All-Star second baseman at “less than 50-50.”

    “It doesn’t look too good right now,” said the source.

    Mariners general manager Jack Zduriencik refused to confirm a meeting with Cano.

    “We’ve talked to everybody,” Zduriencik told ESPNNewYork’s Andrew Marchand on Tuesday. “There’s not a free agent we haven’t talked to. We’ve cast a wide net.”

    Sources familiar with the negotiations between the Yankees and Cano told ESPNNewYork.com that the Yankees believe Seattle might be willing to offer Cano $200 million over eight years.

    One of the sources said the Mariners were “desperate for hitting and desperate to put people in the ballpark.”

    Did Adrian Beltre like Seattle? For what it’s worth, I don’t think anyone is wearing #24 for the Mariners now.

    Comments on M’s Have The Hots For Cano?

    1. redbug
      December 3rd, 2013 | 6:58 pm

      Betcha the Yanks top whatever Seattle agrees to.

    2. December 3rd, 2013 | 8:01 pm

      I wonder if Jack Z is just floating numbers to make the Yankees go wacky, and then they will swoop in and make a run at Beltan when the Yankees run out of money.

    3. Evan3457
      December 4th, 2013 | 12:21 am

      If they’re sticking to the $189 million…

      Well there are two possibilities…

      1) If Cano is willing to wait until the fate of A-Rod is announced, the Yanks might be able to use A-Rod’s money to sign Cano, if the suspension is upheld.

      2) If he’s not willing to wait, they better sign Infante, because Cano’s money can no longer be fit under the $189 million, not if they sign two big ticket starters.

    4. Sweet Lou
      December 4th, 2013 | 12:45 am

      Evan3457 wrote:

      1) If Cano is willing to wait until the fate of A-Rod is announced

      Why would Cano wait until the fate of A-Rod is announced??

      Evan3457 wrote:

      2) If he’s not willing to wait, they better sign Infante, because Cano’s money can no longer be fit under the $189 million, not if they sign two big ticket starters.

      The Yankees are supposed to ask Cano to wait?? His money can still fit under the $189 million if the Yankees sign Kuroda and Tanaka.

    5. Evan3457
      December 4th, 2013 | 2:00 am

      Sweet Lou wrote:

      Why would Cano wait until the fate of A-Rod is announced??

      Because it would leave the Yankees in play, and that creates another big bidder, and raises his potential final offers, Sybil. Duh.

      The Yankees are supposed to ask Cano to wait??

      They won’t have to ask him. His agents will figure that one out on their own, once the Yankees say we have to wait and see what the arbitrator does before we’re sure how much money we have to work with for 2014.

      His money can still fit under the $189 million if the Yankees sign Kuroda and Tanaka.

      I don’t think so. If Cano signs for any number of years at $23-24 million, which is the latest reported offer, Kuroda and Tanaka will be at least another $27 million (if Tanaka can actually be signed for $12 million, because Kuroda isn’t coming back at a reduction after last season) between them, and if arbitration raises are counted, that puts them hard up against the cap. If the posting system is not ratified, or if Tanaka isn’t posted, or if they’re outbid for him, then they have to get a free agent from MLB, which will likely cost as much or more in salary.

      And that’s without considering whether they’ll sign a veteran closer to back up Robertson, a 3rd baseman to back up A-Rod, or any mid-season veteran pickups they might want to make to bolster their roster in the middle of a playoff chase, such as a 1st baseman if Teixeira’s wrist keeps him from hitting adequately, or Jeter’s legs won’t let him play short everyday. So they’ll have to set aside $5-10 million in the budget for that.

      They also have to allow for a few million in benefits, as I understand it.

    6. Sweet Lou
      December 4th, 2013 | 10:40 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      I don’t think so.

      With Alex Rodriguez’s suspension upheld, they will have the money for all three… That’s if the suspension’s upheld, if Masahiro Tanaka’s posted, if they’re able to win rights to negotiate with him, if they’re able to sign him, if he’s a legitimate top-of-the-rotation guy, if they sign Kuroda, if…, if…, if… then the front office can claim to have a championship caliber team in 2014.

      Evan3457 wrote:

      They also have to allow for a few million in benefits, as I understand it.

      Approx. $11 million.

    7. Evan3457
      December 4th, 2013 | 11:53 pm

      Sweet Lou wrote:

      Evan3457 wrote:
      I don’t think so.
      With Alex Rodriguez’s suspension upheld, they will have the money for all three… That’s if the suspension’s upheld, if Masahiro Tanaka’s posted, if they’re able to win rights to negotiate with him, if they’re able to sign him, if he’s a legitimate top-of-the-rotation guy, if they sign Kuroda, if…, if…, if… then the front office can claim to have a championship caliber team in 2014.

      …and stay under the self-imposed cap.

      If they’re willing to blow through the cap, as some have insisted all along, they can do it anyway. We’ll see.

      Evan3457 wrote:
      They also have to allow for a few million in benefits, as I understand it.
      Approx. $11 million.

      Baseball Refernce has them at $137 million, without Ellsbury. Ellsbury pushes them to about $160 million. Tanaka and Kuroda, or just about any other two free agent starters push them up against the cap. No room for Cano unless 1) they blow through the cap, or 2) A-Rod is suspended for the whole season, or most of it.

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