• Most Career Multiple Homerun Games

    Posted by on December 16th, 2013 · Comments (5)

    Here are the leaders:

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    How many of these guys are known juicers? What other ones are suspects?

    Comments on Most Career Multiple Homerun Games

    1. NC Yankee
      December 16th, 2013 | 11:51 am

      Who cares?? They were all great hitters, regardless.

    2. #15
      December 16th, 2013 | 12:39 pm

      @ NC Yankee:
      Yeah, but take the juice out of the game and some guys currently relegated to 20-something, 30-something or 40-something on the list would be held in higher (i.e., proper) regard in the all-times records. And… that’s really what PED’s users did; they robbed baseball fans of the centuries-long love affair with stats and generational comparisons, and they tilted the playing field in their favor against non-users. No one really cares where Bonds, Sosa, A-Rod, Manny or Giambi end up on any of the all-time lists. We all know their inflated by PED’s; wherever the are on the list, it would have been lower down in the rankings without the sauce.

    3. MJ Recanati
      December 16th, 2013 | 3:16 pm

      #15 wrote:

      Yeah, but take the juice out of the game and some guys currently relegated to 20-something, 30-something or 40-something on the list would be held in higher (i.e., proper) regard in the all-times records. And… that’s really what PED’s users did; they robbed baseball fans of the centuries-long love affair with stats and generational comparisons, and they tilted the playing field in their favor against non-users.

      There’s a PED element to this list but it’s not just PED’s. Juiced balls, smaller ballparks, multiple expansions, and more fringe arms pitching in the majors because of the explosion of relief specialization all played a role in Pujols (for example) being tied with Mickey Mantle or Hank and Willie being clustered with McGwire and Rodriguez.

    4. #15
      December 16th, 2013 | 6:47 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      There is truth in what you say, but…

      Over my memorable baseball lifetime (call it since 1966), only two guys hit 50 dingers in a season up until 1995… George Foster (’77) and Big Daddy (’90), and they each did it once. They did it as some smaller ballparks were coming in/had arrived, after mounds had been flattened, after expansion, after relief pitching exploded, etc….

      Yet, in the 70′s, 80′s, and into the mid 90′s, only those two guys pulled it off in nearly 30 years! It happened 3 times in the 60′s, twice in the 50′s, twice in the 40′s, 4 times in the 30′s, and 4 times in the 20′s (all the Babe). You take Babe, Mickey, Kiner, Willie and Foxx out of the mix and it becomes a rare, rare event; basically a fluke.

      Then, in ’95, it exploded. At least one guy, and often more than one, hit 50 dingers from 1995 to 2002. It happened 18 times in 8 years! First screening hit in 2003. Mandatory testing began with the start of Spring training 2004. Since then, in 10 years, 7 guys have hit 50 or more, and at least two are considered to be likely PED users (A-Rod and Ortiz). Excluding A-Rod in 2007, 3 guys have hit 50 or more in the 7 years between 2007 and 2013. So, in short, it’s not as rare as it used to be, but it’s on a path to be.

      Camden Yards opened in 1992. One of the most hitting friendly parks of all times. Excluding the Brady Anderson “anomaly”, exactly one 1 Oriole (this year) has hit 50.

      The PED’s worked… and they distorted the all-time stats. Even with the change in fields, baseballs, pitching, etc… 50 dingers and multiple HR games will be rare events if PED’s are out of the system. Is there another Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron or Willie Mays out there. Of course… and records will get broken… because they are physical freaks, not chemists. Or at least let’s hope that’s how it goes.

    5. PHMDen
      December 16th, 2013 | 10:04 pm

      #15 wrote:

      And… that’s really what PED’s users did; they robbed baseball fans of the centuries-long love affair with stats and generational comparisons, and they tilted the playing field in their favor against non-users.

      Agreed.

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      There’s a PED element to this list but it’s not just PED’s. Juiced balls, smaller ballparks, multiple expansions, and more fringe arms pitching in the majors because of the explosion of relief specialization all played a role in Pujols (for example) being tied with Mickey Mantle or Hank and Willie being clustered with McGwire and Rodriguez.

      Albert Pujols PEDs played the biggest role in him being tied with Mantle; it wasn’t cheating for Pujols to play with a juiced ball, a smaller ballpark, in an era of expansion, etc.; it was cheating for him to “tilt the playing field in his favor against non-users,” on his way to a $240M payday and “robbing baseball fans of the centuries-long love affair with stats and generational comparisons.”

      #15 wrote:

      Over my memorable baseball lifetime (call it since 1966), only two guys hit 50 dingers in a season up until 1995… George Foster (’77) and Big Daddy (’90), and they each did it once.

      McGwire hit 49 HRs in his rookie year in ’87, and did not surpass that figure until ’96, when he “somehow” managed to average more HRs than Maris’ ’61 record total from ’96 to ’99.

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