• Yanks Front Office Afraid Of Looking Dumb?

    Posted by on December 20th, 2013 · Comments (16)

    Via Joel Sherman

    The better the Commissioners Office does with the arbitrator in the Alex Rodriguez case, the worse the Yankees’ 2014 team will probably be.

    Think of it this way: If Fredric Horowitz honors all or most of the 211-game suspension imposed by Bud Selig, then all or most of Rodriguez’s salary will vanish from the books for the 2014 season. That provides essentially the only way for the Yankees to get under $189 million for next season, but not by so much they could afford to address their remaining problems well.

    But if the arbitrator goes light on A-Rod — and the lightest would probably be 50 games — then most of his salary would remain on the 2014 books and there would be just about no way the Yankees could get under $189 million. And once that is a reality, they may as well spend what they have to in order to, say, land Masahiro Tanaka (if he is ever posted) and sign perhaps Fernando Rodney to close.

    Because as one member of the organization said to me, “We either have to be under $189 million or up over $200 million or more. Think how dumb it would look if we worked for a few years to get under $189 million and we didn’t and we were at like $192 million and just missed. Either we go under or way over.”

    More importantly, if they just miss, would anyone be held accountable for it?

    Comments on Yanks Front Office Afraid Of Looking Dumb?

    1. #15
      December 20th, 2013 | 1:24 pm

      I’ll take the 211 games without him and go from there.

      Semi thread hi-jack alert. I heard on MLB Radio last night the the Mariners GM said they are pretty much done and going to “work with what they have” for 2014. I think someone on the M’s checked the ATM machine and found out their account is empty. There will not be much protection in that line-up for Robbie. If it takes them 2-3 years to fortify the team, or for youngsters to develop, they will have wasted the best years of Robbie’s contract. So… it appears they broke the bank for a show pony and don’t have money for stablemates to help pull the wagon. You read it hear… Robbie will get paid, but this will not end well.

    2. MJ Recanati
      December 20th, 2013 | 1:41 pm

      @ #15:
      Could be a negotiating ploy to get Tampa to lower its demands on a David Price deal or ditto to Texas on their demands for Elvis Andrus.

      Then again, the M’s have done this before (the winter they traded for Erik Bedard, thinking they were good enough to compete).

    3. December 20th, 2013 | 2:16 pm

      Don’t discount that the AL West is not exactly the AL East. Oakland has to do it again. Texas seems to be going backwards. And, the Angels still need pitching. You may be able to take the west with 90 wins next year.

    4. MJ Recanati
      December 20th, 2013 | 3:44 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      n’t discount that the AL West is not exactly the AL East. Oakland has to do it again. Texas seems to be going backwards. And, the Angels still need pitching. You may be able to take the west with 90 wins next year.

      The M’s aren’t winning 90 games by just adding Morrison, Hart, and Cano to a team that had a 67-win Pythagorean Win Expectancy.

    5. Mr. October
      December 20th, 2013 | 7:38 pm

      People on this site have been commenting for over a year that this team won’t be able to both be under $189 million threshold and field a team that will be competitive in the postseason, and how dumb it will look when personnel decisions which will affect the roster from 2012-16, and beyond, were made on that basis.

      If someone is held accountable, I’m sure Cashman will write that person a recommendation letter on Yankees letterhead, as he’s done in the past.

    6. Kamieniecki
      December 20th, 2013 | 7:58 pm

      Mr. October wrote:

      Cashman

      It’s a shame Cashman didn’t grow to be only a few inches shorter… his father might have gotten him a job in harness racing as a jockey, and not a job in the front office of a M.L.B. team owned by his long-time personal friend and business associate, George M. Steinbrenner… And the New York Yankees might have 35 World Series titles today.

    7. McMillan
      December 20th, 2013 | 8:10 pm

      Kamieniecki wrote:

      It’s a shame Cashman didn’t grow to be only a few inches shorter…

      @ Kamieniecki:
      Baseball is a game of inches.

    8. Greg H.
      December 21st, 2013 | 12:49 am

      Note to Kamienieki/McMillan/Mr.October/SweetLou/Ricketson/PHDem: Happy holidays and thanks for killing this very good site with incessant reduction of every thread to some form of CashBash. Cheers mates and here’s to a better 2014.

    9. Kamieniecki
      December 21st, 2013 | 8:36 pm

      One way for the Yankee front office to look less dumb, would be to have Cashman keep his mouth shut:

      “We have some torpedoes locked and loaded,” Cashman said. “And [they] have to be finished off…” Cashman, you moron, torpedoes are not “locked and loaded.” If you served in the military, you would know that.

    10. Kamieniecki
      December 21st, 2013 | 8:38 pm

      @ Greg H.:
      Happy Holidays.

    11. McMillan
      December 21st, 2013 | 9:00 pm

      Kamieniecki wrote:

      If [Cashman] served in the military, [he] would know that.

      Is there still a height requirement in all active duty services of the military?

    12. McMillan
      December 21st, 2013 | 9:06 pm

      @ Greg H.:
      It may be linear (and emotionally satisfying) to say that any criticism of Brian McGuire Cashman, son of Hall of Fame Harness Racing member John Cashman (a long-time personal friend and business associate of New York Yankees principal owner George M. Steinbrenner III, a harness racing enthusiast) is “Cashman bashing,” but it clearly is neither factual or logical.

      That’s the difficulty in making this argument against Mr. October and Kamieniecki – they (shockingly) employ facts and logic. Happy Holidays… And enjoy watching the New York Yankees in the New Year; unfortunately, Team Cashman will not have the luck to win an A.L. pennant with this pitching staff.

    13. Mr. October
      December 21st, 2013 | 10:10 pm

      McMillan wrote:

      That’s the difficulty in making this argument against Mr. October and Kamieniecki…

      I remember that argument: “… spending the most money every year doesn’t guarantee the best performance in the playoffs every year….” That was absolutely correct… however, I never said that. Spending the most money every year should guarantee the best performance in the AL playoffs, or the NL playoffs, more than once every 10 yrs, if you have an autonomous GM with half-a-brain and $190-240 Mil. to spend.

    14. PHMDen
      December 22nd, 2013 | 11:14 pm

      Greg H. wrote:

      Note to Kamienieki/McMillan/Mr.October/SweetLou/Ricketson/PHDem: Happy holidays and thanks for killing this very good site with incessant reduction of every thread to some form of CashBash.



      He did the bash
      He did the Cashman bash
      The Cashman bash
      It was a Meanwell smash
      He did the bash
      It caught on in a flash
      He did the bash
      He did the Cashman bash

    15. Sweet Lou
      December 23rd, 2013 | 8:33 pm

      Greg H. wrote:

      Note to Kamienieki/McMillan/Mr.October/SweetLou/Ricketson/PHDem: Happy holidays and thanks for killing this very good site with incessant reduction of every thread to some form of CashBash.

      @ Greg H.:
      “… Yankees — Brian Cashman (+8.3:$4.6M) vs (+11.4:$2.9M)

      Cashman has not been a successful trader, losing 3.2 WARP a year over the same 15-year period as Beane. The two began their stints within three months of each other… Unlike Beane, however, over that span, Cashman paid an above-market $4.6M for his WARP versus $2.9M paid by his trading partners and $2.6M for Beane. Since 2000, the average MLB payroll has been $104M and the Yankees’ has been $229M, so Cashman can and has made up trading deficits via free agency. It’s nice to be Daddy WARbucks….

      Conclusion

      WARP via trade is an important determinant of GM performance and subsequent franchise success… Trade WARP in a vacuum is a blunt tool for GM evaluation, as WARP and its dollar cost are valued differently by contenders and rebuilders and rich and poor franchises. At a minimum, I would have confidence in distinguishing the extremely strong traders (Dombrowski, Friedman, Amaro) from the very weak ones (Cashman, Moore, Huntington)…”

    16. Sweet Lou
      December 23rd, 2013 | 8:41 pm

      Greg H. wrote:

      Note to Kamienieki/McMillan/Mr.October/SweetLou/Ricketson/PHDem: Happy holidays and thanks for killing this very good site with incessant reduction of every thread to some form of CashBash.

      “… WARP via trade (trWARP) used here is defined as the cumulative player WARP accrued by a franchise (or its partner) consequent to the trade, but attributable to the year of the trade. More specifically, trWARP accrues as of the trade date and continues until the player attains free agency, is traded again, or retires/is released…

      @ Greg H.:
      Baseball Prospectus’s Jul. 13, 2013 Cashbash has Cashman is in the bottom three of GMs in trWARP, ahead of only Moore and Huntington…

      http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=21393

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