• .122/.182 /.146

    Posted by on March 23rd, 2014 · Comments (7)

    Yes, that’s Derek Jeter’s BA/OBP/SLG line this spring, so far (in 44 PA).

    And, the numbers have been going down as the spring has moved forward.

    Cause for concern…yet?

    Comments on .122/.182 /.146

    1. March 23rd, 2014 | 8:42 am

      If Jeter is hitting a buck-fifty this year on May 30th, he’s going to walk away. Book it.

    2. redbug
      March 23rd, 2014 | 9:58 am

      @ Steve L.:

      I’m not concerned about the spring 3′s. He was out for a year. But, I agree, if he’s hitting .150 on 5/30, he’ll retire.

    3. Evan3457
      March 23rd, 2014 | 10:43 am

      Not really; not yet.

      Off-topic, Joel Sherman in today’s Post:

      “…And 18 scouts and executives were kind enough to respond to my request for their five best players, starting pitchers, relievers, managers, general managers and teams going into the 2014 campaign…

      “Moneyball” might not have won the Oscar, but Oakland GM Billy Beane led in this voting, with one personnel man saying, “He continues to find ways to be ahead of trends.” Beane was followed by Tampa Bay’s Andrew Friedman (“I vacillate between calling him a ninja or a Jedi”), Detroit’s Dave Dombrowski (“year in and year out gets the job done — small trades, big trades, free agents, never scared to make a move”) and St. Louis’ John Mozeliak (“has stayed the Cardinal course, allowing good developers and scouts do their jobs, with a good blend of smart Sabremetric and baseball people”).
      I was stunned by the fifth choice, Minnesota’s Terry Ryan…

      The Yankees’ Brian Cashman, Atlanta’s Frank Wren and San Francisco’s Brian Sabean tied for sixth, followed by Boston’s Ben Cherington. Arizona’s Kevin Towers, Texas’ John Daniels, Cleveland’s Chris Antonetti, Pittsburgh’s Neal Huntington and San Diego’s Josh Byrnes.”

    4. March 23rd, 2014 | 11:28 am

      I would take Daniels or Antonetti over Cashman in a heartbeat.

    5. Mr. October
      March 23rd, 2014 | 7:06 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      If Jeter is hitting a buck-fifty this year on May 30th, he’s going to walk away. Book it.

      I’ll be surprised if Jeter has a good year offensively, but I don’t think his performance will be so poor (e.g. a buck-fifty) that he’ll decide to walk away; if it is, I think he will…

    6. Mr. October
      March 23rd, 2014 | 7:43 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      I would take Daniels or Antonetti over Cashman in a heartbeat.

      And, of course, when someone is asked to substantiate a favorable position on Cashman, invariably there are two answers given: 1. he’s won the most games with the most money spent; and 2. he appears at the top of a survey by The Bleacher Report or a New York tabloid…

      Here’s something on the thin-skinned GM published by Baseball Prospectus within the last nine months, not something from Wallace Matthews, Joel Sherman, or The Post:

      Trade WARP: Evaluating MLB General Managers

      “… Cashman has [lost] 3.2 WARP a year over the same 15-year period as Beane…. Cashman paid an above-market $4.6M for his WARP versus $2.9M paid by his trading partners… Since 2000… Cashman can and has made up trading deficits via free agency. It’s nice to be Daddy WARbucks.

      WARP via trade is an important determinant of GM performance… Trade WARP in a vacuum is a blunt tool for GM evaluation… At a minimum extremely strong traders (Dombrowski, Friedman, Amaro) [can be distinguished] from the very weak ones (Cashman, Moore, Huntington)…”

      http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=21393

      Daddy WARbucks has won one (1) A.L. Championship in the last ten (10) years with one of the least productive farms systems in M.L.B. and “making up trade deficits via free agency,” but he’s a better GM than Cherington, Towers, Daniels, Antonetti, Byrnes, and others, because an anonymous survey from “18 scouts and executives” says so? Strong argument supporting a position that Cashman deserves to be the GM of this franchise in 2014.

    7. Evan3457
      March 24th, 2014 | 12:39 am

      Well, someone either believes what baseball people have to say, or one doesn’t. You don’t get to pick what to believe, and what to use to support your arguments.

      When baseball people say that “baseball is all about pitching”, you don’t get to believe that, and ignore evidence that particular idea that, based on their actions in a wide variety of ways, isn’t really believed by baseball people, regardless of what they say, and then turn around when 18 inside baseball people are asked to name the best GMs, just say, “Oh, well, I have the evidence that they’re wrong, so I’m just gonna ignore what they say.”

      Now, I don’t have that problem, because I don’t simply believe whatever someone says just because it supports or doesn’t support my position. I merely posted that survey because it was fun to do so.

      An anonymous survey is more likely to produce unvarnished opinions than a survey people have to reveal their names in. Now, if I were the Steinbrenners, what would I base my judgment of Cashman’s job performance on…one anonymous troll, or 18 anonymous scouts and baseball executives?

      Actually, neither…I’d base it what I observed of his performance, and my own judgment. For what it’s worth, I don’t believe the survey, just because it was printed in the paper.

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      Last, you don’t get to quote Joel Sherman as an important source when he says the Yankee infield is a mess, a disaster, a black hole, whatever, and then bash him for writing for a “New York tabloid” for publishing a survey he presumably did honestly. Well, if you’re going to be hypocritical, you don’t.

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