• Another Reason Why Cashman Should Be Fired

    Posted by on March 24th, 2014 · Comments (11)

    In current edition of Baseball America, they list the “Top Organizations With 25-And-Under Talent.”

    And, of the 30 teams in Major League Baseball, who ranks DEAD LAST at #30?

    Why, it’s the New York Yankees.

    And, next to their name, here’s “the skinny” (or reason why) provided by BBA: Yankees have no 25U established regular big leaguers and only one entrant on this year’s Top 100 Prospects.

    Really? A team with resources such as the Yankees…and this is the best they can do?

    Someone should be held accountable for this, no?

    For the record, the Braves were #1, the Cardinals were #3, the Red Sox were #8, and, the Mets – yes, the Mets! – were #10 on the list.

    If Big Stein were alive, think he would be happy with seeing Boston at eight and the Mets at ten…with his team dead last at thirty? No…

    And, someone would have been held accountable for it…unlike today.

    Comments on Another Reason Why Cashman Should Be Fired

    1. Raf
      March 24th, 2014 | 11:30 am

      Big Stein probably would not have cared, given his preference for proven veterans.

    2. MJ Recanati
      March 24th, 2014 | 1:54 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Big Stein probably would not have cared, given his preference for proven veterans.

      +1

    3. March 24th, 2014 | 3:38 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Big Stein probably would not have cared, given his preference for proven veterans.

      Maybe, but, he also would have nailed Cashman to the cross for totally screwing up draft picks like Brackman and Culver.

    4. Mr. October
      March 24th, 2014 | 4:00 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Big Stein probably would not have cared, given his preference for proven veterans.

      Mr. Steinbrenner would have cared more about winning only one (1) AL Pennant in the last ten (10) years with approx. $2.25 billion of his money spent on the salaries those “proven veterans,” like Carl Pavano. But Big Stein would have cared about having a farm system that was DEAD LAST in talent under the age of 25, too, especially with Boston at no. 8 – a franchise in the same division that’s won 3x as many AL Pennants in the same timeframe spending approx. $650 million less.

      “Proven veterans.” The counterargument to criticisms of Cashman’s anemic trade record is often that such criticisms are largely “hindsight.” Brian Cashman’s “general management” of this franchise has been “general management by hindsight” – or, “proven veteran” or established position players signed to nine-figure contracts to get this team to an LDS without the pitching to win a championship in 9 out of every 10 autonomous years…

      At least Gene Michael tried to acquire pitchers like Randy Johnson before they would go on to win 5 Cy Young Awards. When has The Yankee Swordsman ever been ahead of the curve on a player or pitcher (with the exception of Jonathan Albaladejo)?

    5. redbug
      March 24th, 2014 | 5:43 pm

      Whether George would’ve cared or not isn’t the point. He hasn’t run the org in years.

      Steve’s right. It is ridiculous that the Yankees are last.

    6. Raf
      March 24th, 2014 | 6:14 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Maybe, but, he also would have nailed Cashman to the cross for totally screwing up draft picks like Brackman and Culver.

      Given that GM’s weren’t fired over picks like Shea Morenz, Brien Taylor and Jeffrey Pries, probably not.

    7. Raf
      March 24th, 2014 | 6:19 pm

      Meanwhile, over at Baseball Prospectus
      http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=22906

      23. New York Yankees
      Farm System Ranking in 2013: 14
      2014 Top Ten Prospects: Link
      State of the System: The Yankees have talent in the minors—which helps separate them from the poorer systems in baseball—but down years from key prospects caused the system to yo-yo from middle of the pack to the bottom third.

      Top Prospect: Gary Sanchez (85)

      Breakout Candidates for 2014: Luis Severino and Luis Torrens

      Prospects on the BP 101: 1

      Must-See Affiliate: Short-Season Staten Island

      Prospects to See There: Luis Severino, Luis Torrens, Ian Clarkin, Gosuke Katoh, Thairo Estrada

      Farm System Trajectory for 2015: Up. In a talented yet schizophrenic system, all it takes is a return to form from some of the more heralded names on the farm and the Yankees will shoot back up the org rankings.

    8. Evan3457
      March 25th, 2014 | 2:42 am

      The only important Yankee on the 1977 team 25 and under was Willie Randolph. Jim Beattie came along to help in 1978.

      The only important Yankee on the 1998 team 25 and under was Derek Jeter.

      On this year’s Dodgers team, it’s just Puig, as Jansen and Kershaw turned 26. Even Dee Gordon turns 26 within a month.

      Which is not to say this team is poised to win multiple titles. Only that having a lot of talent under 25 is good for a team, but maybe no so important when it comes to winning that year’s title.

    9. Scout
      March 25th, 2014 | 6:41 pm

      Just to set the record straight, Big Stein loved minor league talent — because it gave the organization chips to trade for the proven vets in whom he placed so much confidence. The point of developing your own is that they’re assets, both to use and to deal. And teams want ready-now talent in a trade, which is why the Yankees are in worse shape than the raw numbers suggest. Short-season A league players won’t fetch in return the key piece a team needs in a play-off run.

      But don’t worry. Hal’s much-publicized review of the farm system at the end of the 2013 system may not have resulted in firing the likes of Oppenheimer or Newman (much less the Teflon GM), but it did yield new organizational processes for reviewing information to avoid confirmation bias and an upgrade of the minor league facilities in Tampa. So all should be well going forward….

    10. Mr. October
      March 25th, 2014 | 8:17 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Brien Taylor

      Why would a GM be fired for selecting Brien Taylor in the draft?

    11. Mr. October
      March 25th, 2014 | 8:21 pm

      Raf wrote:

      Big Stein probably would not have cared, given his preference for proven veterans.

      Regardless of whether or not “Big Stein” might have cared (which he did) – why not have a better farm system – at least 15th in MLB, producing better “organization chips to trade” for “better” “proven vets?” “Better proven vets” who perform better in the postseason? I’ll stop trying to make sense

      “Big Stein” had a pretty good farm system in 1970s. McGriff, Mattingly, Righetti, among others, were in the system at the same time at the beginning of the 1980s… and Big Stein had enough in the farm system to blow the Los Angeles Dodgers out of the water in a bid for Rickey Henderson in 1984-85.

      Scout wrote:

      … but it did yield new organizational processes for reviewing information to avoid confirmation bias… So all should be well going forward….

      I thought Cashman was a great “administrator?” That was supposed to have been his foremost skill when he was named the second-youngest GM in MLB history in 1998…

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