• Welcome To The World Of Phil Hughes, Twins Fans

    Posted by on April 16th, 2014 · Comments (14)

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    For the third time in as many starts, one inning doomed Phil Hughes.

    In his season debut, it was the fifth inning. Last week against Oakland, it was the first inning. Thursday, the sixth inning got the best of Hughes.

    The new Minnesota Twins right-hander cruised through five scoreless innings Tuesday against Toronto before it all came crashing down in a five-run sixth frame. Four of those runs were charged to Hughes as he was on the hook for the loss in the Twins’ 9-3 defeat.

    “So far, three starts, three bad innings,” Hughes said after the loss.

    After needing 74 pitches to get through five scoreless innings, Hughes simply couldn’t get anyone out in the sixth despite holding a 2-0 lead. He surrendered a leadoff double down the left-field line to Munenori Kawasaki, and followed that up with an RBI single by Jose Bautista for Toronto’s first run of the game.

    Adam Lind followed Bautista with a single to center to send Bautista to third. Edwin Encarnacion recorded the Blue Jays’ fourth consecutive hit to open the inning as he singled off Hughes to drive in Bautista and tie the game at 2.

    “It looked like the ball was still coming out of his hand, but he sure wasn’t making any pitches,” said Twins manager Ron Gardenhire. “They hit I don’t know how many balls in a row right on the screws. He was cruising before that.”

    Comments on Welcome To The World Of Phil Hughes, Twins Fans

    1. #15
      April 16th, 2014 | 8:07 am

      Coincidently, I checked Hughes’ stats (and Joba’s) last night. Whoa. We got better by subtraction.

      Hey, maybe the Twins could try Hughes out of the pen!!! There’s a thought.

    2. Mr. October
      April 16th, 2014 | 2:39 pm

      “So far, three starts, three bad innings…” The same thing we’ve been hearing about the $23.5 million starter with the 89 mph fastball signed through 2017 in The Bronx…

    3. April 16th, 2014 | 3:06 pm

      Mr. October wrote:

      “So far, three starts, three bad innings…” The same thing we’ve been hearing about the $23.5 million starter with the 89 mph fastball signed through 2017 in The Bronx…

      Couple of differences, though – one being age, the other being the fact that Hughes *never* became what he was promised to be, and CC is a potential HOF’er.

      That said, overall I agree that most of our long-term contracts stink.

    4. Mr. October
      April 16th, 2014 | 3:36 pm

      The “Dark Tetrad” of Internet trolls is: 1. Machiavellianism; 2. narcissism; 3. psychopathy; and 4. sadism…

      The “Dark Triad” of the troll who is the G.M. of the New York Yankees is: 1. one of the least productive M.L.B. farm systems since 2000; 2. one of the worst trade records of all M.L.B. G.Ms with at least three (3) years of experience from 2000-13; and 3. problematic long-term free agent contracts through 2016, or long-term contracts that stink, such as Sabathia’s…

    5. #15
      April 16th, 2014 | 3:38 pm

      Let me hijack this thread. Tanaka just hurled 8 dominant innings. Cubs can’t hit much, but that was damn impressive. Command, stuff and velocity into the 8th. Better than anything Hughes put up last year. Moreover, he gave us length leading into a packed scehdule, saved bull pen bullets and did it without killing himself. As I said a few weeks ago, our 4 and 5 starters may be the best in the league. Also, we’ll need a 6th starter in a few days. Phelps or Nuno??? Those are pretty darn good options.

    6. Greg H.
      April 16th, 2014 | 5:20 pm

      @ #15:
      Our 4 and 5 starters could be our 2 and 3 starters, in which case our 4 and 5 starters are still among the league’s best.

    7. LMJ229
      April 16th, 2014 | 10:18 pm

      Our 4 and 5 starters just shut out the Cubbies twice in one day! Life is good.

    8. LMJ229
      April 16th, 2014 | 10:21 pm

      Hughes’ stats are brutal. Those “three bad innings” must have been REAL bad.

    9. LMJ229
      April 16th, 2014 | 10:23 pm

      #15 wrote:

      Coincidently, I checked Hughes’ stats (and Joba’s) last night. Whoa. We got better by subtraction.

      You could add Swisher to that addition by subtraction equation too.

    10. LMJ229
      April 16th, 2014 | 10:34 pm

      As long as we’re talking about former players, has anyone seen Cano’s stats lately? (.278-0-5) Welcome to Safeco Field. And welcome to Seattle where half the country is going to bed while you’re games are just starting and the travel to away games is just brutal. How long do you think it will be until he starts asking to be traded? And how trade-able will he be with that ridiculous contract?

    11. EHawk
      April 16th, 2014 | 11:39 pm

      @ LMJ229:
      Well Prince Fielders awful contract was traded….if Cano gets traded it will be with the Mariners picking up a bunch of money. Cano’s HR and power stats will be down for sure…he will still be close to a .300 hitter.

    12. Raf
      April 17th, 2014 | 5:23 pm

      LMJ229 wrote:

      As long as we’re talking about former players, has anyone seen Cano’s stats lately? (.278-0-5) Welcome to Safeco Field. And welcome to Seattle where half the country is going to bed while you’re games are just starting and the travel to away games is just brutal. How long do you think it will be until he starts asking to be traded? And how trade-able will he be with that ridiculous contract?

      How brutal could first class travel possibly be? And they get days off after long trips.

    13. Raf
      April 20th, 2014 | 9:09 pm

      From 2009;

      http://www.hardballtimes.com/pitch-sequence-high-fastball-then-curveball/

      Yankee prospect Phil Hughes is another interesting pitcher to track this with because of his large hump on his curveball. In fact, Hughes’ hump is the largest in the league by more than two inches. You would expect that Hughes would be throwing some high fastballs to help with the deception, but he didn’t once throw a high fastball followed by a curveball all year. In Hughes’ defense, his year was less than 40 innings but still you would have expected at least some high fastball/curveball sequences.

      Hughes mowed down minor league hitters at every level, but he is still a very young pitcher. He also is almost exclusively a two-pitch pitcher (fastball/curveball) so he needs both pitches working to be successful. His curveball last year was over two runs100 worse than a league average curveball. surprising considering how much scouts love the pitch and how much movement he gets with it.

      It seems pretty clear that Hughes just doesn’t have the necessary deception yet and big league hitters are recognizing his curve and either laying off the pitch or hitting it hard. It is very possible that Hughes’ great movement was enough to fool minor league hitters and up until this point he never needed to properly disguise the pitch. With the Yankees’ rotation looking full after their offseason spending spree, it seems likely Hughes will start the year in Triple-A. He is likely to do well there as he has already shown he can get hitters out at that level, but without some tweaks, I would be very surprised if he had a lot of success at the major league level. Obviously, he is a very young pitcher and has a lot of time to make the proper changes, but it can be hard to work on something at a level where you don’t really need to use it to be successful.

    14. Raf
      April 20th, 2014 | 9:10 pm

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