• Pineda & Tanaka Have Been Outstanding…

    Posted by on April 17th, 2014 · Comments (13)

    …so far. But, then again, it’s only April 17th.

    And, it’s only been 3 starts each, for them, to date this season. And, the Yankees have only played 15 games this season.

    Remember Carl Pavano in 2005 and A.J. Burnett in 2010?  This is how they did in the Yankees first 15 games in those seasons.

    Rk Player Year #Matching W L ERA GS IP ER HR BB SO
    1 Andy Pettitte 2007 4 Ind. Games 1 0 1.93 4 23.1 5 1 7 12
    2 Carl Pavano 2005 4 Ind. Games 1 2 2.86 4 22.0 7 3 3 14
    3 Mike Mussina 2006 4 Ind. Games 2 1 2.67 4 27.0 8 2 6 23
    4 Chien-Ming Wang 2008 3 Ind. Games 3 0 1.23 3 22.0 3 1 4 11
    5 Masahiro Tanaka 2014 3 Ind. Games 2 0 2.05 3 22.0 5 2 2 28
    6 CC Sabathia 2013 3 Ind. Games 3 0 1.57 3 23.0 4 1 4 19
    7 CC Sabathia 2010 3 Ind. Games 2 1 1.66 3 21.2 4 1 8 19
    8 CC Sabathia 2011 3 Ind. Games 0 1 1.45 3 18.2 3 0 7 17
    9 Michael Pineda 2014 3 Ind. Games 2 1 1.00 3 18.0 2 1 3 15
    10 Andy Pettitte 2010 3 Ind. Games 2 0 1.35 3 20.0 3 0 9 14
    11 Andy Pettitte 2009 3 Ind. Games 2 0 2.53 3 21.1 6 1 2 10
    12 Andy Pettitte 2013 3 Ind. Games 3 0 2.01 3 22.1 5 2 5 12
    13 Andy Pettitte 2008 3 Ind. Games 2 1 3.38 3 18.2 7 1 7 9
    14 Hiroki Kuroda 2013 3 Ind. Games 2 1 2.87 3 15.2 5 0 5 12
    15 Randy Johnson 2006 3 Ind. Games 2 1 2.25 3 20.0 5 1 0 16
    16 A.J. Burnett 2010 3 Ind. Games 2 0 2.37 3 19.0 5 1 6 13
    17 A.J. Burnett 2009 3 Ind. Games 2 0 3.20 3 19.2 7 3 9 17
    18 A.J. Burnett 2011 3 Ind. Games 2 0 3.86 3 16.1 7 2 8 17
    19 Kevin Brown 2004 3 Ind. Games 3 0 1.29 3 21.0 3 0 4 14
    Provided by Baseball-Reference.com: View Play Index Tool Used
    Generated 4/17/2014.

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    Comments on Pineda & Tanaka Have Been Outstanding…

    1. #15
      April 17th, 2014 | 8:44 am

      Hunting for that gray cloud hiding behind the silver lining. I also see some pretty damn good pitchers on that list. At the very least, these two pitchers will give us a very, very good chance to win games we should win. And, they appear to be able to go deep enough in games so as to not burn up the pen on every outing.

      Take it with a smile, especially with Tampa losing two starters, at least one of which is for the entire season.

    2. rankdog
      April 17th, 2014 | 9:00 am

      Wordy way of saying small sample size??? Your a fan of the team, just enjoy the ride instead of trying to quantify everything. We have some young guys stepping up (Solorate and Ann also) its fun to watch. If the bottom drops you can draw up plenty of charts to show why later.

    3. MJ Recanati
      April 17th, 2014 | 9:46 am

      #15 wrote:

      Hunting for that gray cloud hiding behind the silver lining.

      That’s the Lombardi way. Anything good is really just bad and anything bad is…self-evidently bad. There’s no joy on this site and none is permitted, either.

    4. Greg H.
      April 17th, 2014 | 10:12 am

      There’s joy, but it’s Steve’s job look for impending doom. Steve’s like Eyeore; we can’t all be Tiggers.

    5. #15
      April 17th, 2014 | 10:31 am

      I have often observed that it’s Yankee fans lot in life to fret and then win, and Red Sox fans (and Met fans, to an extent) to boast and then lose. That summed it up pretty well until about 10 years ago. So, I get the inherent concern thing. Still, this team looks vastly better than last year’s model, they are much more fun to watch so far, and hell, we are in 1st place ~ 10% into the season. Ending the season with a winning record against the Rays will go a long way toward a good outcome for 2014. Madden has the Rays believing they can, and should, beat the Yankees.

      Listened to MLB radio this AM and they were commenting on Robbie Ca”No Homers”. Welcome to some big fields on the West Coast. He better tear it up in Arlington and Houston, because Oakland, Seattle and LAAAAAA will crimp his style.

    6. Evan3457
      April 17th, 2014 | 11:58 am

      1. Both pitchers have started in outstanding fashion.
      2. It is still very, very early in the season.

      On the other hand, if we apply ratio limits to that list:

      1. At least 7 K/9 IP.
      2. No more than 2 BB/9 IP.
      3. A K/BB ratio of at least 4/1.

      Then everyone on that list disappears, except for Tanaka, Pineda, CC Sabathia, 2013, and Johnson, 2006. The last two are enough of a caution all by themselves. It’s the K/BB data, especially in Tanaka’s case which is what makes their performance so far impressive. But team will start to get a book on him, too, and then we’ll see how he adjusts to that.

      Long way to go.

    7. April 17th, 2014 | 1:21 pm

      I still think Tanaka is really benefiting from being new, and, the 2nd and 3rd time around the league, people are going to start to lay off the splitter.

    8. Scout
      April 17th, 2014 | 2:19 pm

      You have trouble enjoying the moment, Steve, don’t you?

    9. Greg H.
      April 17th, 2014 | 2:42 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      I still think Tanaka is really benefiting from being new, and, the 2nd and 3rd time around the league, people are going to start to lay off the splitter.

      No question they both are benefiting by being new. But so far, the splitter is as advertised – it’s nasty, especially if he’s locating the fastball, which he is. Same can be said of Pineda and the slider. They are both a lot of fun to watch right now, especially since we’ve grown accustomed to watching the likes of Phil Hughes and AJ Burnett, etc as 2/5 of the rotation.

    10. April 17th, 2014 | 2:47 pm

      Scout wrote:

      You have trouble enjoying the moment, Steve, don’t you?

      Actually, I don’t enjoy being fooled. That’s why I am not jumping on the band wagon…yet.

    11. kenclay
      April 17th, 2014 | 3:07 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      I still think Tanaka is really benefiting from being new, and, the 2nd and 3rd time around the league, people are going to start to lay off the splitter.

      Like batters did with Clemens for 20 years? The whole point of the splitter is that it is extremely difficult to lay off as it looks like a fastball then disappears.

    12. Scout
      April 17th, 2014 | 3:55 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Actually, I don’t enjoy being fooled. That’s why I am not jumping on the band wagon…yet

      What bandwagon? It’s been a handful of good starts, no more, no less. Let’s wait, oh, half a season to see whether the league catches up to Tanaka and he adjusts and whether Pineda’s arm flies off in the middle of his wind up.

    13. Evan3457
      April 17th, 2014 | 5:09 pm

      Scout wrote:

      Steve L. wrote:
      Actually, I don’t enjoy being fooled. That’s why I am not jumping on the band wagon…yet
      What bandwagon? It’s been a handful of good starts, no more, no less. Let’s wait, oh, half a season to see whether the league catches up to Tanaka and he adjusts and whether Pineda’s arm flies off in the middle of his wind up.

      This.

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