• Two Points On Masahiro Tanaka

    Posted by on April 23rd, 2014 · Comments (19)

    Love the fact that his BB/K ratio is 2/35 (in 29.3 IP).

    But, two things: 4 homers allowed in 4 starts. That’s not a great pace for someone whose supposed to be a stud and who has the advantage of hitters seeing him for the first time. And, he’s only pitched on 4 days rest once. His last two starts have come on five and six days rest. What’s going to happen when he has to go out there every fifth day, consistently? The one time this season he pitched on 4 days rest was when he allowed the most earned runs (for him, so far) in a game.

    I’m just saying…

    We’ll see if any of this means something as the season moves forward.

    Comments on Two Points On Masahiro Tanaka

    1. NC Yankee
      April 23rd, 2014 | 8:48 am

      The guy is a stud.

    2. Greg H.
      April 23rd, 2014 | 10:26 am

      @ NC Yankee:
      Sure looks like the real deal to me too.

    3. Greg H.
      April 23rd, 2014 | 10:31 am

      They seemed like they were sitting fastball and he left those up. I didn’t see the whole game, but they didn’t look like they could do much with the other pitches. Loved the two curves he threw Napoli in the AB after the HR.

    4. April 23rd, 2014 | 10:48 am

      One time around the league, and EVERYONE is going to be sitting on his fastball.

      Hideo Nomo’s rookie year:
      First 17 starts, ERA was 2.04
      Next 11 starts, ERA was 3.38

      Hitters adjust.

    5. April 23rd, 2014 | 10:51 am

      And, don’t even get me started on the difference for Nomo from year one to year three.

    6. NC Yankee
      April 23rd, 2014 | 11:00 am

      @ Steve L.:
      Yea…no sense in looking at the bright side…that the Yankees have a great pitcher that can help them for several years. I guess since he isn’t “home grown” he isn’t worth having. How have the “home grown” pitchers done for the Yankees over the years (I know about #42 & #46)? This guy looks great so why don’t you enjoy the fact that he might be a great one?

    7. #15
      April 23rd, 2014 | 11:43 am

      And the list of available pitchers that you’d rather have based on what we’ve seen so far???

      My only negative comment after last night’s game was when, praise heaven, when, will a Yankee pitcher dare to make Ortiz move his feet during an AB? Worst he can do is get ticked off and hit one in the seats, which he’s doing anyway. Other than that, I’ll take last night’s outing every time a Yankee pitcher takes the bump.

    8. Greg H.
      April 23rd, 2014 | 2:04 pm

      #15 wrote:

      when, praise heaven, when, will a Yankee pitcher dare to make Ortiz move his feet during an AB?

      Amen to that. Pineda or Betances would be my preference for that task. I’m excited to see how Big Mike does tonight.

    9. Greg H.
      April 23rd, 2014 | 2:09 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Hideo Nomo’s rookie year:

      He pitches like Kuroda (more than Nomo) only he has more weapons.
      He’s better than Kuroda and he’s only 25.

    10. MJ Recanati
      April 23rd, 2014 | 2:47 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      Hideo Nomo’s rookie year:
      First 17 starts, ERA was 2.04
      Next 11 starts, ERA was 3.38
      Hitters adjust.

      Batting line of opponents in those first 17 starts: .158/.255/.239, .222 BABIP, 0.60 HR/9

      Batting line of opponents in the next 11 starts: .221/.294/.364, .302 BABIP, 0.75 HR/9

      Doesn’t look to me like the league adjusted THAT much to Nomo in his rookie year. A delta of 0.080 in average on the balls in play coupled with a very slight uptick in HR’s allowed is what moved the ERA up by 1.3 runs. The slash rates in the second half of the season are still outstanding.

    11. MJ Recanati
      April 23rd, 2014 | 2:48 pm

      #15 wrote:

      My only negative comment after last night’s game was when, praise heaven, when, will a Yankee pitcher dare to make Ortiz move his feet during an AB?

      After 10 or so years of this, it’s safe to say it’ll never happen. It should’ve happened years ago but if it hasn’t happened now…

    12. #15
      April 23rd, 2014 | 4:08 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      @ Greg H.:
      A friend of mine had, in the old stadium, upper deck seats right, square, behind home plate. They were perfectly aligned. We could see that Ortiz had his hands over home plate, yet no one brushed him back. He hit an upper deck bomb that night. There was a sideview slow-mo of his homerun from last night on MLBTV this AM. He’s making a huge leg cock (his knee met, or went above, his belt), loading up his hands with a huge hitch, and letting ‘em fly. He’s just way too comfortable at the plate. You would take away (or at least greatly shorten) the leg cock and expose that hitch if you gave him happy feet. Just think how many times Cisco has been knocked on his arse since he came up? And he’s just leaning in; he’s not nearly on the plate like Ortiz. I’m still catching regularly in MSLB and tournaments. Nobody gets to crowd the dish with impunity. And no, I’m not saying to throw at his head. But lighting up his shin once in a while can’t hurt.

      ESPN stats show over the past 3 years he’s hitting .364 against us with an OBP of .465, compared to his overall stats of .311 and .401. So, someone is getting him out more than us. He’s .272 and .393 respectively, against Tampa with roughly the same # of AB’s. Knocking him down by 50-70 points in each catagory would go a long way to improving our chances against Boston.

    13. MJ Recanati
      April 23rd, 2014 | 4:45 pm

      @ #15:
      I agree with everything you’re saying but it’s obvious that the Yankees aren’t going to do it. As I said, if they haven’t yet, why would we think that they’d start now?

    14. #15
      April 23rd, 2014 | 5:43 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      So is it a lack of guts, a lack of recognition, a fear of tarnishing a good-guy image, fear of retaliation??? Was there every any pay back for A-Rod getting lit up between the numbers???? You would think someone would ask why TB has more success against Ortiz than we do.

    15. Evan3457
      April 23rd, 2014 | 6:33 pm

      In Nomo’s 1st 4 starts, Nomo K’d 33 in 20 2/3 IP…but he also walked 16.

      So Nomo isn’t really that close a comparison. Neither is Kuroda, nor Darvish. But you know whose rate stats, including HR rates, resembles Tanaka’s?

      This guy’s

      Especially around 2001-2002.

    16. Evan3457
      April 23rd, 2014 | 6:34 pm

      Of course, it’s only 4 starts, no team has gotten a 2nd look at him, and the league doesn’t yet have a “book” on him.

      Very good 1st 4 starts, but again, it’s just 4 starts.

    17. Mr. October
      April 23rd, 2014 | 7:07 pm

      Steve L. wrote:

      And, don’t even get me started on the difference for Nomo from year one to year three.

      Tanaka can opt out of his contract after fours years – with the $20 mil. posting fee, that would come to more than $27 million-per year for four years (or $25 million-per year for seven years, if he doesn’t opt out)… A lot of baseball has to be played this season and beyond before this contract can be judged one way or the other…

    18. Evan3457
      April 23rd, 2014 | 8:59 pm

      Mr. October wrote:

      Steve L. wrote:
      And, don’t even get me started on the difference for Nomo from year one to year three.
      Tanaka can opt out of his contract after fours years – with the $20 mil. posting fee, that would come to more than $27 million-per year for four years (or $25 million-per year for seven years, if he doesn’t opt out)… A lot of baseball has to be played this season and beyond before this contract can be judged one way or the other…

      That is 100% correct.

    19. Mr. October
      April 24th, 2014 | 12:14 pm

      Evan3457 wrote:

      That is 100% correct.

      @ Evan3457:
      The spelling? I know… It’s interesting that there has been so much excitement and optimism surrounding the early season success of Tanaka’s first four appearances and a BB/K ratio is 2/35 (in 29.3 IP), when pitching is more significant than hitting by “only one ordinal…”

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