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		<title>Comment on Quick Work Wrapping Up #27 by 77yankees</title>
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		<dc:creator>77yankees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, you may want to put this link up from The Onion in a separate post.  I laughed my axis off reading it.

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/report_yankees_trademarked_yankees</description>
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<p><a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/report_yankees_trademarked_yankees" rel="nofollow">http://www.theonion.com/content/news/report_yankees_trademarked_yankees</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on THT/James: Posada Not To Match &#8216;09 In &#8216;10 by 77yankees</title>
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		<dc:creator>77yankees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no doubt in my mind Cervelli has to catch 50 games in 2010 as ol&#039; Jug Ears continues to show his age.  And he should be preparing to step to the background for 2011 for Cervelli/Montero/Romine or the extreme long shot in Joe Mauer.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Yanks Not Shopping Swisher? by 77yankees</title>
		<link>http://waswatching.com/2009/11/20/yanks-not-shopping-swisher/comment-page-1/#comment-243840</link>
		<dc:creator>77yankees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 01:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ butchie22&lt;/b&gt;:

Have to begrudgingly agree.  For all the misadventures, strikeouts, and numerous baserunning blunders - he stays.  Who would you get to play RF - Brad Hawpe? - who walks less and Ks even more than Swisher.</description>
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<p>Have to begrudgingly agree.  For all the misadventures, strikeouts, and numerous baserunning blunders &#8211; he stays.  Who would you get to play RF &#8211; Brad Hawpe? &#8211; who walks less and Ks even more than Swisher.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rosenthal:  Yanks Ponder Ways To Skin Their Pitching Needs by Scout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ BOHAN&lt;/b&gt;:
It depends.  They have to be classified as type A or B free agents to earn the team that loses them a compensatory pick.  I don&#039;t have the list at hand, but because Matsui lost most of 2008 I doubt he ranks as a type A.  If the Yankees offer them arbitration, they can get draft picks, although the worst 15 teams have protection against losing their first-round pick.  Offering arbitration is risky, though, because it means the Yankees have to offer a one-year deal at higher pay than last year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Scout');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_243838','Scout');" /></div><span id="co_243838"><p><b>@ BOHAN</b>:<br />
It depends.  They have to be classified as type A or B free agents to earn the team that loses them a compensatory pick.  I don&#8217;t have the list at hand, but because Matsui lost most of 2008 I doubt he ranks as a type A.  If the Yankees offer them arbitration, they can get draft picks, although the worst 15 teams have protection against losing their first-round pick.  Offering arbitration is risky, though, because it means the Yankees have to offer a one-year deal at higher pay than last year.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rosenthal:  Yanks Ponder Ways To Skin Their Pitching Needs by BOHAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOHAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and dont they get draft picks if they dont sign damon and matsui????</description>
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		<title>Comment on Rosenthal:  Yanks Ponder Ways To Skin Their Pitching Needs by BOHAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>BOHAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;@ MJ&lt;/b&gt;:
i would be willing to give him that money. number 1: you&#039;re not going to get an &quot;elite&quot; college pitcher that low in the draft. the top pitchers r goin to be gone by the 15th pick. everyother pitcher u get is going to take a while to &quot;season.&quot; number2: i would feel much more comfortable with a 31 yr old (not &quot;mid-30&#039;s,&quot; as Scout refered to him) veteran thats been very successful thru out his career.</description>
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i would be willing to give him that money. number 1: you&#8217;re not going to get an &#8220;elite&#8221; college pitcher that low in the draft. the top pitchers r goin to be gone by the 15th pick. everyother pitcher u get is going to take a while to &#8220;season.&#8221; number2: i would feel much more comfortable with a 31 yr old (not &#8220;mid-30&#8217;s,&#8221; as Scout refered to him) veteran thats been very successful thru out his career.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Go West Not So Young Wang? by YankAlbi</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankAlbi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aren’t we jumping to conclusions here?  To the best of my knowledge the Yankees haven’t indicated anything as far as Chien-Ming Wang is concerned.  It’s all conjecture at this point.Aren’t we jumping to conclusions here?  To the best of my knowledge the Yankees haven’t indicated anything as far as Chien-Ming Wang is concerned.  It’s all conjecture at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('YankAlbi');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_243835','YankAlbi');" /></div><span id="co_243835"><p>Aren’t we jumping to conclusions here?  To the best of my knowledge the Yankees haven’t indicated anything as far as Chien-Ming Wang is concerned.  It’s all conjecture at this point.Aren’t we jumping to conclusions here?  To the best of my knowledge the Yankees haven’t indicated anything as far as Chien-Ming Wang is concerned.  It’s all conjecture at this point.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rosenthal:  Yanks Ponder Ways To Skin Their Pitching Needs by Scout</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mj has amplified the point I intended to make in my initial comment on the draft pick matter.  Of course, the Yankees are not like many other teams that must husband their high draft choices.  But give them up for pieces of high value that you really need.  Set-up men in their mid-30s do not qualify by my calculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('Scout');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_243834','Scout');" /></div><span id="co_243834"><p>Mj has amplified the point I intended to make in my initial comment on the draft pick matter.  Of course, the Yankees are not like many other teams that must husband their high draft choices.  But give them up for pieces of high value that you really need.  Set-up men in their mid-30s do not qualify by my calculation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rosenthal:  Yanks Ponder Ways To Skin Their Pitching Needs by MJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;butchie22&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;this were a middle market team THEN fine they’d worry about the draft picks. They lost their 1,2,3 round draft picks last year in signing CC , AJ and Teix, I didn’t hear an outcry from the fans reagrding those moves on the basis of lost draft picks. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Butchie, the analysis is completely different for two reasons:

-First, the Yanks had a compensation pick in the first round of last year&#039;s draft for failing to sign Gerrit Cole.  As such, the decision to spend their own first rounder on a Type A free agent was partially mitigated by the fact that they had a compensation pick to fall back on.  I completely agree that the Yanks would&#039;ve signed Sabathia, Burnett and Teixeira regardless of whether they had the Cole-compensation pick or not but it does bear mentioning.

-Second, I assume you&#039;ll agree that there is an immeasurable difference between CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett or Mark Teixeira and Mike Gonzalez.  The former three players are all elite, game-changing talent whereas the latter is a good but by no means unique middle relief pitcher.  The odds of getting a Sabathia, Burnett or Teixeira in the draft -- meaning not only identifying the correct player but developing that player in the system and then having him come up to the big leagues and perform at an all-star caliber level -- are not terribly likely.  The odds, however, of finding a relief pitcher in the first round are quite good.

Given the fact that Gonzalez is probably the best relief pitcher available in free agency and likely to demand closer money (let&#039;s assume 3Y/$15-20M), I fail to see how spending the money and the draft pick on Gonzalez makes sense.  The Yankees could just as easily use that first round draft pick, spend a bonus of $2M on the 30th overall pick (that&#039;s quite above slot) and have themselves a potential relief pitcher at 1/13th the cost.

I definitely agree with your larger point about the Yankees not being a middle-market team and not letting the draft pick calculus affect their judgment but I&#039;d argue that for a relief pitcher of Mike Gonzalez&#039;s caliber and reputation, that&#039;s not the best allocation of that resource.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="comment-toolbar" style="text-align: right"><input type="button" value="Reply" onclick="CF_Reply('MJ');" /><input type="button" value="Quote" onclick="CF_Quote('co_243833','MJ');" /></div><span id="co_243833"><p><b>butchie22</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>this were a middle market team THEN fine they’d worry about the draft picks. They lost their 1,2,3 round draft picks last year in signing CC , AJ and Teix, I didn’t hear an outcry from the fans reagrding those moves on the basis of lost draft picks. </p></blockquote>
<p>Butchie, the analysis is completely different for two reasons:</p>
<p>-First, the Yanks had a compensation pick in the first round of last year&#8217;s draft for failing to sign Gerrit Cole.  As such, the decision to spend their own first rounder on a Type A free agent was partially mitigated by the fact that they had a compensation pick to fall back on.  I completely agree that the Yanks would&#8217;ve signed Sabathia, Burnett and Teixeira regardless of whether they had the Cole-compensation pick or not but it does bear mentioning.</p>
<p>-Second, I assume you&#8217;ll agree that there is an immeasurable difference between CC Sabathia, AJ Burnett or Mark Teixeira and Mike Gonzalez.  The former three players are all elite, game-changing talent whereas the latter is a good but by no means unique middle relief pitcher.  The odds of getting a Sabathia, Burnett or Teixeira in the draft &#8212; meaning not only identifying the correct player but developing that player in the system and then having him come up to the big leagues and perform at an all-star caliber level &#8212; are not terribly likely.  The odds, however, of finding a relief pitcher in the first round are quite good.</p>
<p>Given the fact that Gonzalez is probably the best relief pitcher available in free agency and likely to demand closer money (let&#8217;s assume 3Y/$15-20M), I fail to see how spending the money and the draft pick on Gonzalez makes sense.  The Yankees could just as easily use that first round draft pick, spend a bonus of $2M on the 30th overall pick (that&#8217;s quite above slot) and have themselves a potential relief pitcher at 1/13th the cost.</p>
<p>I definitely agree with your larger point about the Yankees not being a middle-market team and not letting the draft pick calculus affect their judgment but I&#8217;d argue that for a relief pitcher of Mike Gonzalez&#8217;s caliber and reputation, that&#8217;s not the best allocation of that resource.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rosenthal:  Yanks Ponder Ways To Skin Their Pitching Needs by butchie22</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Scout&lt;/b&gt; wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;@ MJ:
It’s an even worse idea when you consider that as Type A free agents some of these guys would cost the Yankees a high draft pick (assumign their old teams fofer arbitration).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Scout, this is not Toronto or Baltimore where that is an essential consideration! If this were a middle market team THEN fine they&#039;d worry about the draft picks. They lost their 1,2,3 round draft picks last year in signing CC , AJ and Teix, I didn&#039;t hear an outcry from the fans reagrding those moves on the basis of lost draft picks. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I grok your idea BUT I don&#039;t think that this organization operates like a middle market team worried about losing first round picks BECAUSE they just can&#039;t buy players........</description>
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<blockquote><p>@ MJ:<br />
It’s an even worse idea when you consider that as Type A free agents some of these guys would cost the Yankees a high draft pick (assumign their old teams fofer arbitration).</p></blockquote>
<p>Scout, this is not Toronto or Baltimore where that is an essential consideration! If this were a middle market team THEN fine they&#8217;d worry about the draft picks. They lost their 1,2,3 round draft picks last year in signing CC , AJ and Teix, I didn&#8217;t hear an outcry from the fans reagrding those moves on the basis of lost draft picks. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I grok your idea BUT I don&#8217;t think that this organization operates like a middle market team worried about losing first round picks BECAUSE they just can&#8217;t buy players&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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