• Yanks Thinking Of Trade With Phillies?

    Posted by on June 27th, 2013 · Comments (15)

    Via Jim Salisbury

    News that New York Yankees first baseman Mark Teixeira needs season-ending surgery to repair a right wrist injury could ultimately be felt in the Phillies’ clubhouse.

    The Phillies have struggled to reach the .500 mark all season and could end up trading away players if they don’t make a serious move in the standings over the next few weeks.

    The list of trade possibilities is long: Cliff Lee, Jonathan Papelbon, Chase Utley, Carlos Ruiz and Michael Young head the list.

    Three of those players –- Utley, Ruiz and Young –- could be of serious interest to the Yankees, who are in the market for catching and corner-infield help.

    According to a baseball executive, the Yankees have already kicked around Ruiz’s name as a possible upgrade at the catcher position. Ruiz, 34, is in the final year of his contract.

    Utley and Young and can both play first base and could be of interest to the Yankees as they look to get by without Teixeira. Young played a significant amount of first base in Texas before shifting to third base with the Phillies this season. He could also give the Yanks depth at third as they wait for Alex Rodriguez to return.

    The Yankees, 2 1/2 games back in the AL East, had a scout in Philadelphia last weekend. His mission was unknown but the visit coincided with Utley’s coming off the disabled list. Ruiz came off the disabled list earlier that week.

    Utley and Young are also in the final year of their contracts.

    It would be interesting to see what the Yankees are willing to give up – in any trade.

    Comments on Yanks Thinking Of Trade With Phillies?

    1. MJ Recanati
      June 27th, 2013 | 8:50 am

      Given that all three players mentioned are headed for free agency at the end of the season, I would hope and expect that the price to acquire any (or all) of the players would be more reasonable, especially if the Yankees don’t ask for any salary relief for Young/Utley.

      I don’t know how much these guys have left in the tank but it would be interesting to put Young at 1B for the rest of the year and have Ruiz supplanting Chris Stewart as the everyday catcher.

    2. Scout
      June 27th, 2013 | 10:15 am

      Short-term rentals like these don’t command a high price, especially now that the acquiring team can no longer reap a draft choice if the player signs elsewhere in free agency. Certainly not a prospect in the organization’s top ten.

    3. #15
      June 27th, 2013 | 1:35 pm

      Young or Ruiz for Joba.

      Phils shed some salary and both sides still have a shot at a draft pick.

    4. LMJ229
      June 27th, 2013 | 1:52 pm

      #15 wrote:

      Young or Ruiz for Joba.
      Phils shed some salary and both sides still have a shot at a draft pick.

      I can’t see the Phillies making that deal. Why would they want Joba if they are bailing on the season?

    5. MJ Recanati
      June 27th, 2013 | 2:58 pm

      LMJ229 wrote:

      Why would they want Joba if they are bailing on the season?

      Because he costs less than $1M the rest of the way, giving the Phillies a younger arm and money in their pocket by not paying Ruiz or Young.

      To the extent Joba wants to stay in Philadelphia, Philly would presumably get the inside track since they could reasonably offer him a chance to compete in their rotation behind Lee/Hamels.

    6. LMJ229
      June 27th, 2013 | 3:12 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      Would you want him if you were a Phillies fan?

    7. LMJ229
      June 27th, 2013 | 3:13 pm

      This may all very well be a moot discussion. By the time Cashman gets around to making a move the Yankees will be well out of the race.

    8. MJ Recanati
      June 27th, 2013 | 4:02 pm

      LMJ229 wrote:

      Would you want him if you were a Phillies fan?

      Actually, yes. Selling off a half-season of a veteran you’re not likely to keep in order to get a young arm with plus velocity that can still achieve 85% of his previous ceiling would be a trade I’d support if I were a Phillies fan.

      Philly is a HR-friendly ballpark and the defense is spotty in the infield but it’s still the NL so pitching to a lineup of eight instead of nine should help Chamberlain whether he remains in the bullpen or gets an opportunity to start in the future.

    9. MJ Recanati
      June 27th, 2013 | 4:06 pm

      LMJ229 wrote:

      This may all very well be a moot discussion. By the time Cashman gets around to making a move the Yankees will be well out of the race.

      Judging by the fact that no one in baseball has yet to make a trade, it’s somewhat unfair to preemptively blame Cashman for something that remains to be seen (and isn’t being done by his peers either).

    10. Ricketson
      June 27th, 2013 | 5:23 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Judging by the fact that no one in baseball has yet to make a trade, it’s somewhat unfair to preemptively blame Cashman for something that remains to be seen (and isn’t being done by his peers either).

      When is Cashman going to establish “a new ceiling” for himself?

    11. LMJ229
      June 27th, 2013 | 8:36 pm

      @ MJ Recanati:
      My husband is a Phillies fan and he wouldn’t touch Joba with a ten foot pole. He would much rather have a prospect, especially if the Phillies are out of it, why would he want a half year of Joba? I thought you couldn’t stand Joba anyway? Now he’s suddenly “a young arm with plus velocity that can still achieve 85% of his previous ceiling”? I think you are over-valuing him. If Cashman can somehow pull off a Joba-for-Young trade, I’d be the first to sing his kudos.

    12. LMJ229
      June 27th, 2013 | 8:44 pm

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      Judging by the fact that no one in baseball has yet to make a trade, it’s somewhat unfair to preemptively blame Cashman for something that remains to be seen (and isn’t being done by his peers either).

      I’m not trying to preemptively blame Cashman. I know the market doesn’t really open up until the last half of July. All I’m saying is, if he can’t somehow improve the team prior to then, we will likely be out of the race.

      IMO he has two options: try to make the team better NOW to stay in contention, or wait and be sellers at the deadline.

    13. MJ Recanati
      June 28th, 2013 | 9:08 am

      LMJ229 wrote:

      I thought you couldn’t stand Joba anyway? Now he’s suddenly “a young arm with plus velocity that can still achieve 85% of his previous ceiling”?

      I can’t stand him but that doesn’t mean that a move to the NL, or away from the Yankees in general, won’t be good for his career. He’s lighting up the radar gun so, if nothing else, he’s still got a place in someone’s bullpen.

    14. MJ Recanati
      June 28th, 2013 | 9:09 am

      LMJ229 wrote:

      try to make the team better NOW to stay in contention, or wait and be sellers at the deadline.

      Hard to make a move now when no one is selling to prospective buyers, right?

      That second part — being a seller in July/August — isn’t happening.

    15. LMJ229
      June 29th, 2013 | 12:01 am

      MJ Recanati wrote:

      That second part — being a seller in July/August — isn’t happening.

      If we are out of the race at the end of July – and we very well might be the way this team is playing – and we are not a seller, then Cashman is not doing his job. If we are out of the race, why hang on to guys like Granderson, Hughes and Joba?

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