• Andy Pettitte & Jim Palmer, Side By Side

    Posted by on January 25th, 2018 · Comments (4)

    The numbers (here) do not lie.

    Comments on Andy Pettitte & Jim Palmer, Side By Side

    1. Evan3457
      January 25th, 2018 | 12:41 pm

      Biggest difference between the two: Palmer has 3 Cy Young Award, Andy has none.
      Palmer also clears all four evaluation measures of Hall of Fame worthiness listed at Baseball Reference, Andy clears only the Hall of Fame monitor, which is the only one that gives sufficient credit for his post-season work.

      Of the 10 pitchers listed on Andy’s Similarity Scores list, only two are in the Hall of Fame: Carl Hubbell and Jack Morris. Of the remaining 8, only CC Sabathia and Mike Mussina have a real shot of making the Hall.

      Of the 10 listed on Palmer’s similarity scores list, eight are in the Hall, two are not. One of the two is Mussina, who is likely to get in at some point.

      The last player on Palmer’s similarity list, in the 10th slot?

      Andy Pettitte.

    2. 77yankees
      January 27th, 2018 | 10:39 pm

      Palmer was a dominant pitcher. Pettitte was not.

      Palmer put up eight 20 win seasons, and four of them in the late 70s, when he had to go up against the Munson/Reggie/Chambliss/Nettles gauntlet in NY, the Rice, Yaz, Lynn, Fisk quartet in Boston, and Molitor/Yount/Cecil Cooper/Sixto Lezcano or Larry Hisle in Milwaukee. And had to face each of these teams 4,5,6 times a year.

      Yes, Pettitte had a lot of big postseason wins, but he’d be the first to tell you he doesn’t compare to Palmer……And Palmer would probably be the second to tell you.

    3. January 28th, 2018 | 10:45 am

      Palmer pitched in a time where it was easier to get 20 wins and post a low ERA. The 5 man rotation and the increased use of bullpens make it almost impossible for someone to win 20 games, the last 20 years or so.

    4. Raf
      January 29th, 2018 | 5:39 pm

      I think Pettitte gets in via the veterans committee. If Jack Morris was able to get in via his big game pitcher rep, I think Pettitte could do the same.

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